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Romans 1:26,27: Was Paul Speaking about Homosexuality?

The other day I posted an article entitled “Is the Gay Agenda a Myth?” After that article was posted, a commenter directed me to an article he did exegeting some of the main passages in the Bible that touch on the topic of homosexuality. So, I went and read this gentleman’s article on Romans 1 and this is my response to it. You can find his article here—–>”Romans 1: What Was Paul Ranting About?

Alex begins his post with quoting extensively from Dr. Catherine Kroeger and B.Z. Goldberg.  They discuss how the Roman culture viewed sex within their pagan religion. Having background is important to understanding Scripture. However, Alex uses the background as an eisegetical (reading into the text) tool. Notice what Alex does with a quotation from Goldberg and how he quotes the Scriptures:

Goldberg concludes:

The priest … who castrated himself in religious frenzy assumed feminine dress not without purpose.  He continued in the service of the temple and like the priestesses served man for the required fee.  They were male priests serving males in the temples of all the gods.”

Doesn’t all this sound like what Paul had in mind in the beginning of his letter to the Romans with an attack on pagan idolatry when he wrote:

Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones.  In the same way, the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another.  Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty [e.g., castration] for their perversion.” (Romans 1:27)

Do you see what Alex did? He takes one example of a priest who cut off his genitals and Alex then places this into the text of Scripture. Is Alex seriously suggesting that Paul knew about this single priest and that priest’s action somehow is the lens that we are to view the “due penalty”? It really doesn’t make sense. So, what is Paul talking about in Romans 1:26,27? Let’s take a look at the passage:

26 For this reason God gave them up to dishonorable passions. For their women exchanged natural relations for those that are contrary to nature; 27 and the men likewise gave up natural relations with women and were consumed with passion for one another, men committing shameless acts with men and receiving in themselves the due penalty for their error. -ESV

We see that God gives people up to “dishonorable passions”. Paul then goes on to discuss what that means when he says, “For their women exchanged natural relations for those contrary to nature”. Now, Alex would have us believe that what Paul is talking about here is simply that woman acted like men. However, no where in Alex’s article does he discuss the phrase “exchanged natural relations”. That seems to be the point Paul is communicating. Woman forsake natural sexual relations with men to pursue unnatural sexual relations with women. We see this more clearly when Paul speaks about men.

Paul says, “and the men likewise gave up natural relations with women and were consumed with passion for one another”. The word likewise connects Paul’s discussion of women and men. Not only does Paul speak about men giving up their normal “relations” with women but he says that they, “were consumed with passion for one another.” Is this saying that they were giving up acting like men? No, it is saying that they traded natural sexual relations for the unnatural. Men traded sexual relations with women for “shameless acts with men.”

Even with Paul’s words some that identify themselves as Christian tell us that what Paul is describing here could be one man forcing himself on another man. The problem is that Paul is clear that this sexual engagement is mutual. This is clear when Paul says that they were, “consumed with passion for one another.” These were mutual desires by two willing parties. Alex did not present this but I wanted to address this argument because there have been a few people who have asserted this view.

Paul’s message is very clear. He is talking about homosexuality and he is condemning it. One must impose their meaning into this text to suggest that Paul is not speaking about homosexual behavior. People who trade natural sexual relations for the unnatural are engaging in sin. Men who sleep with and lust after men are committing sin. Women who sleep with and lust after women are committing sin. It is truly sad to see people who call themselves Christians twist Scripture to allow for sin.

If you identify yourself as gay or lesbian I pray that you find true peace in Christ. I pray that God may give you the will and strength to battle the sin that is within you. I know for myself that sexual sin is difficult to deal with but I know a God that can break through all of it. I know a perfect savior who never fails to save. I know a savior that took my sins on himself to make me righteous in the eyes of God. I know a savior that came to save sinners and I would encourage you to come to him in repentance.  He alone can save and his name is Jesus!

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About Travis Berry

I am a blatantly honest person who loves to think, read, discuss, and write about God and theology. I have a bachelor's degree in Youth Ministry from Crown College. I work at a church in Houston, TX as a Youth Director and love every minute of it! I am married to a wonderful woman named Becky and we have one amazing child! I have a love for God's Word, and a fervor to live it out in the fullest, and I pray this blog reflects that. Thanks for checking out AnotherChristianBlog!.

Posted on January 23, 2012, in Christianity, Culture, Life, Theology and tagged , , , , , , , , , . Bookmark the permalink. 11 Comments.

  1. Thank you for referencing my article. You’ve written a lot, but sadly offer little exegesis. You rightly recognize right up front that “having background is important to understanding Scripture” but you then skirt right through and totally ignore your own directive. (You also grossly misrepresent what I wrote, but that’s another story.) For the sake of time and space, let’s stick with the background info.

    Exegesis, as agreed, requires that we seek to draw out FROM the text what it originally meant to the author and to the original intended audience — without reading INTO it the many traditional interpretations that may have grown up around it. The reader today must somehow try to enter the world of the biblical writer and seek to understand what the writer was saying.

    This means that if you want to know something about what the text originally meant to the author and the original intended audience you need the background info. Ignore the background info (context) and your understanding will be misunderstanding. What you’ve missed here can fill a volume. But for the sake of limited venue, following is a sampling of what you either missed, ignored and/or twisted.

    One of the most prominent and pervasive themes weaving its way through virtually every book of the Bible is that of paganism and the constant call to turn from it. We find a continuous call to the Israelites to turn from the worshiping of the false or pagan gods of the day and to turn instead to the one true living God, Yahweh. In connection with this is the admonition to turn from participating in a myriad of pagan idolatrous rituals and practices. Both the OT and NT spend page after page condemning these pagan cult practices.

    If you’re not at all familiar with the Roman world of 2,000 years ago from where we get Paul’s letters — and you’ve demonstrated that you are not — then how can you possibly apply or incorporate any of the background info into your interpretation, that you readily admit is critical?

    While you may not be at all familiar with, to cite one example, the blood-letting rituals that were part and parcel of the idolatrous pagan cultic practices of the day, and which Dr. Kroeger and B.Z. Goldberg were referencing, you should be. Scripture is replete with them. One of the more well-known is found in the great showdown on Mt Camel in between Yahweh and Baal (see 1 Kings 18). As you may recall, the question at hand as usual was who to worship: Yahweh or the fertility cults of the day? We read how Ahab had assembled the priests of Baal on Mount Carmel to confront Yahweh’s prophet, Elijah. Then as the prophets of Baal attempted to unleash supernatural power from their false gods to ignite the fire for the sacrifice, the Bible tells us:

    “AND THEY CRIED ALOUD, AND CUT THEMSELVES AFTER THEIR MANNER WITH KNIVES AND LANCETS, TILL THE BLOOD GUSHED OUT UPON THEM.” (1 KINGS 18:28)

    Paul knew the Mediterranean world well and knew exactly what he was doing in selecting this illustration in Romans 1 for his ridiculing of idolatry. Why did they do such bizarre things? Again, if you paid some attention to the historical context you would know the motivation behind the rituals of these fertility cults was FERTILITY! Fertility was highly prized in Ancient times in ways that are completely foreign to our modern thinking. Fact is in many ways their lives literally depended on it. As a result of the great value placed on fertility, the pagan religions were replete with practices believed to appease the fertility gods of the day and thereby win them the blessing of fertility: fertility of the land in the form of rains to ensure and boost crop production, fertility in the way of life through pregnancy and birth, fertility for the reproduction of their livestock, and so on. Israel’s survival hinged on fertility and Baal was a god of fertility. This meant that Baal was the power behind the rain and the dew. And with rainfall levels unreliable, famine was always a real possibility.

    What happens when you ignore the historical context of Scripture as you have done? As the old time radio teacher, Dr. J. Vernon Magee, used to say, “A text without a context is a pretext.” The dictionary defines a pretext as, “An effort or strategy intended to conceal something.” In other words, unless we consider the context of Scripture — the entire context including the historical setting — we are, purposely or not, engaging in a strategy to conceal the teachings of the Bible.

    Your arguments from “nature” also do not carry their own weight and you once again ignore what these words and phrases meant to the author and to the original intended audience. Had you taken the time and trouble to do a study, you would discover the Greek phrase “para physin” (translated in the English as “unnatural”), functions in a very precise way. Research into the Romans’ understanding of what is or is not “natural” does not support your attempts to stigmatize gay sex as “unnatural. What Paul means by natural is what other writers of his day meant by it: it simply meant “what one expects.” Significantly, you should note that Paul applied the very same phrase “para physin” to God’s action in Romans 11:24, when God engrafted Gentiles onto the Jewish olive tree — and there “para physin” was an appreciation, not a reproach. So, if same-sex coupling is, in Paul’s terms “unnatural”, so is your salvation.

    Sorry, my brother, we don’t get to rip passages from their context and replace them in another age for the sake of convenience. As always, we are stuck with the internal interpretation of the text as the primary meaning.

    -Alex Haiken
    http://JewishChristianGay.wordpress.com

    • Hey Alex,

      You said: “You’ve written a lot, but sadly offer little exegesis.”

      Me: I would beg to differ.

      You: “You rightly recognize right up front that “having background is important to understanding Scripture” but you then skirt right through and totally ignore your own directive. (You also grossly misrepresent what I wrote, but that’s another story.)”

      Me: I didn’t “skirt” around anything. One story of one priest cutting off his genitals doesn’t give us historical background. It gives us a single story. Also, I don’t think I misrepresented you. You were the one the placed castration in the text following your single story.

      You: “We read how Ahab had assembled the priests of Baal on Mount Carmel to confront Yahweh’s prophet, Elijah. Then as the prophets of Baal attempted to unleash supernatural power from their false gods to ignite the fire for the sacrifice, the Bible tells us:

      “AND THEY CRIED ALOUD, AND CUT THEMSELVES AFTER THEIR MANNER WITH KNIVES AND LANCETS, TILL THE BLOOD GUSHED OUT UPON THEM.” (1 KINGS 18:28)”

      Me: You speak a lot about the connection between Baal and the Greeks but does that really have anything to do with homosexuality? I would think you would respond to my arguments in my post. I went through the passages pointing out how they are connected and what they mean in context. What I didn’t do was take every possible situation in the historical background and cram it into the text like you are saying one must do. It is one thing to know the background of Rome. It is quite another to change Paul’s clear word usage because of it.

      You: “Your arguments from “nature” also do not carry their own weight and you once again ignore what these words and phrases meant to the author and to the original intended audience. Had you taken the time and trouble to do a study, you would discover the Greek phrase “para physin” (translated in the English as “unnatural”), functions in a very precise way. Research into the Romans’ understanding of what is or is not “natural” does not support your attempts to stigmatize gay sex as “unnatural. What Paul means by natural is what other writers of his day meant by it: it simply meant “what one expects.” Significantly, you should note that Paul applied the very same phrase “para physin” to God’s action in Romans 11:24, when God engrafted Gentiles onto the Jewish olive tree — and there “para physin” was an appreciation, not a reproach. So, if same-sex coupling is, in Paul’s terms “unnatural”, so is your salvation.”

      Me: Where in my article did I ever equate unnatural with sin? You can’t find it. I totally agree with your definition. But, that does not detract from Paul’s point. Romans 1:26:

      “For this reason God gave them up to dishonorable passions. For their women exchanged natural relations for those that are contrary to nature;”

      Paul is simply saying that these women gave up normal sexual relations with men. Paul calls that a dishonorable passion. Then we have verse 27:

      and the men likewise gave up natural relations with women and were consumed with passion for one another, men committing shameless acts with men and receiving in themselves the due penalty for their error.

      Again, we have men trading the natural sexual relations with women for unnatural sexual relations with men. The acts are unnatural but simply being unnatural wouldn’t necessitate quilt of sin. What is sinful is the fact that it goes against God’s commands. They are consumed with passion for one another and their acts are shameless. And because of that they will receive their due penalty. The penalty that every unrepenting sinner gets…death.

      Thanks for the comments,

      Travis

  2. You: I didn’t “skirt” around anything. One story of one priest cutting off his genitals doesn’t give us historical background. It gives us a single story. Also, I don’t think I misrepresented you. You were the one the placed castration in the text following your single story.

    Me: As for the background I quote extensively both Dr. Kroeger (NT scholar and noted expert on Ancient Greek culture), specifically from her featured article in the Journal of the Evangelical Theological Society and from author BZ Goldberg. If the only thing you saw was “one story of one priest cutting off his genitals” then you simply didn’t read the post.

    As for misrepresenting me, to cite just one example, you said, “Alex would have us believe that what Paul is talking about here is simply that woman acted like men.” If that’s what you got from my article, then you either intentionally grossly misrepresented what I said, or you didn’t bother to read it very attentively. Both Dr Kroeger and I were making the point that here in Romans 1 Paul is ridiculing Gentile pagan religious rebellion in typical Jewish polemic saying that they knew God but were worshipping idols instead of God. Paul’s point is not about homosexuality, but about idolatry, worshipping false gods. Paul is talking about idolatrous people engaged in prostitution. He is talking about temple idolatry and cultic rites that were marked by gruesome sex exchanges. It is eisegesis of the highest order (precisely what we’re supposed to avoid) to apply his judgment on them to Christian gay and lesbian people who are not idolaters and no more lustful than anyone else. A closer look at the text reveals a number of significant details:

    (1) There’s a very wide spectrum of human experience between the extreme situation Paul describes depicting those who’ve TURNED THEIR BACKS on God and resort to a depraved lifestyle, and those at the other end of the spectrum (indicative of many that I know) who have TURNED TO GOD and seek after Him with all their heart.

    (2) Those Paul speaks of had refused to acknowledge and worship God and for this reason were abandoned by God to their lustful depravity. The gay Christian people I know have not rejected God at all. They love God and thank him for his grace and his gifts. How then could they have been abandoned to homosexuality as a punishment for refusing to acknowledge God?

    (3) Those Paul speaks of were constantly lusting after each other and in their actions were only following their lusts. The gay Christian people I know don’t lust after each other any more than heterosexual people lust after each other. They seek abiding personal companionship, enduring love, shared intimacy and complete trust from each other just as heterosexual people, at their best, do.

    For you to insist that our gay brothers and sisters in the church are conspicuously ungrateful to God, foolish, futile, impure or debased, or that they are uniquely prone to the sins that Paul describes here have simply not bothered to get to know their fellow Christians. That’s lazy on two counts: exegetical and communal. As previously stated, it’s a claim that barely deserves a hearing.

    Alex Haiken
    http://JewishChristianGay.wordpress.com

    • Alex,

      Are you saying that placing castration in what the “due penalty” Paul speaks about isn’t based on you citing one story? That is what it looked like to me. If that is the case then I did not misrepresent you.

      Allow me to answer some of your points.

      You: “(1) There’s a very wide spectrum of human experience between the extreme situation Paul describes depicting those who’ve TURNED THEIR BACKS on God and resort to a depraved lifestyle, and those at the other end of the spectrum (indicative of many that I know) who have TURNED TO GOD and seek after Him with all their heart.”

      Me: If people do not turn from their sin then they have not turned to God.

      You: “(2) Those Paul speaks of had refused to acknowledge and worship God and for this reason were abandoned by God to their lustful depravity. The gay Christian people I know have not rejected God at all. They love God and thank him for his grace and his gifts. How then could they have been abandoned to homosexuality as a punishment for refusing to acknowledge God?”

      Me: You are right Paul speaks about those who abandoned God. That is shown through their actions. You say that you know gay Christians who have not rejected God. I would say that if they are practicing homosexuality they are proving with their actions that they are more important than God. Their pleasure is more important than pleasing God by keeping his commandments. Homosexuality is not consistent with Christianity. I know people that do have an attraction to the same sex but that is a battle one must face. I do not allow anger and hatred in my life and just say, “It’s okay because God made me angry and hate-filled. I’m a hate-filled Christian.” This goes against God’s word. So does your view.

      You: “(3) Those Paul speaks of were constantly lusting after each other and in their actions were only following their lusts. The gay Christian people I know don’t lust after each other any more than heterosexual people lust after each other. They seek abiding personal companionship, enduring love, shared intimacy and complete trust from each other just as heterosexual people, at their best, do.”

      Me: Paul’s point is that people traded what God had made, man with women, for that which is man-made, man with man/woman with woman. If one is willing to not give up their sin then how can they be considered Christian? They may seek abiding personal companionship, enduring love, shared intimacy and complete trust but they are doing so against God’s command. It may sound hateful but it is the truth.

      You: “For you to insist that our gay brothers and sisters in the church are conspicuously ungrateful to God, foolish, futile, impure or debased, or that they are uniquely prone to the sins that Paul describes here have simply not bothered to get to know their fellow Christians. That’s lazy on two counts: exegetical and communal. As previously stated, it’s a claim that barely deserves a hearing.”

      Me: I never insisted that gay people are ungrateful to God. What I was saying is that practicing homosexuals are not willing to give up their sin and that is foolish, futile, impure, and debased. I am sorry that you feel the need to try and defend a position that the Bible condemns. I know homosexual people and am friends with them. That does not mean I pull punches when it comes to their sin. Just as if I was speaking with a person that continually has sex outside of a marriage commitment I call them to repent. Without repentance their is no salvation. You may think that my claims “barely deserve a hearing” but I think that is really the problem. I hope that God will change your heart Alex and will give you a passion for God and his truth.

      Thanks for the interaction,

      Travis

  3. hi travis, my name is chris. Im from Australia. Firstly i would like to say thank u for holding onto the truth of Gods Word.
    Getting to the point i would like to say that what you have said to Alex is biblicaly based and sound though theres one error. Why you guys are fighting it out about the translation theres a reason god has said no to homosexuality. Its not just because its a sin. Its because its in direct confrontation to who God is. God is known to his faithful children as the trinity. The trinity is a family unit. When a man marries a woman and they have a child they are a family unit.
    When God said to Adam and Eve dont eat of the tree or you will die and Satan challenged that by stating “surely you will not die” Gen 3:5. This was Satan’s first attack on Gods Word. But it was also an attack on human kind made in Gods image.
    Not only is Homosexuality a sin but it represents Satans plan for destroying the family unit.
    Every little bit of ground that is given away to biblical interpretation is not just sins because God saids so. Its more then that. Its Satan bringing in confusion so that each generation will be weaker then the last.
    We live in a world where democracy has allowed religious freedom but with it also comes the power to vote in what ever the masses vote.
    Christians who hold onto the bible in its current presentation are slowly becoming fundamentalists as the bible is less and less being taken as literal. The bible is really starting to be questioned as an old religious, wrongly translated and descriptive not allowing people their own rights.
    The older the bible gets, the more modern society gets and as each generation slowly but surely walks away from the bibles teachings its a sure concoction for Satan making its move.
    Every time Gods Word is challenged as irrelevant or things of the same nature, this just means we are on track of what the bible saids is going to happen in the end times. The bible and the Holy spirit need to be taken out of the way for darkness to come. Once homosexuality is approved and sanctified this means a major step in the destruction of the family unit. Others may follow like polygamy, insest, legalized sex with children. All of this goes against the family unit and as I was saying against the image of god(trinity).

    Its not just about God saying Homosexuality is a sin. There is a reason for everything. Though some things are to far beyond us to see why God has called things a sin but he sees the end result of our sin even though we may not.

    Just to let you know I used to be a homosexual and bisexual and a practicing male escort. I lived like this for16 or so years from the ages of 16 to 35. I became a christian when i was 22 but its taken God a really long time to break through. I dont live like that any more. I come from a world of foster families and really evil biological parents. I grew up in Sydney the 3rd largest gay capital of the world. Theres so much more to me i cannot explain here but what I will say is slowly over time Jesus Christ and the holy spirit have been working with me…and i shouldn’t leave the Father out .lol…

    Also be careful when arguing over translations. It is the Satan’s trap to get you into an argument. Thats how he got Adam and eve to eventually eat the fruit.It is because of arguments over doctrine that many are walking away from the truth. “If we dont know what the truth is then its best not to follow it”. This is the sort of society Satan is taking us into.
    Weakening the church and confusing it. Its easy to put a ring in the nose of someone and lead it to where you want them to go if you can weaken and confuse them. The perfect example of this is when Pilate crucified Jesus after not knowing what the truth was. “What is truth”(John 18:38). Dont be tricked into leaning on your own understanding as i know you were not in talking with Alex about homosexuality.He was and it is because people who claim to know Jesus are being directed by Satan. They may not know it. I dont know why god opened up my eyes. But i am so grateful he has counted me worthy. Theres much more of this whole thing then meets the eye. Be very careful when entering into dialogue with these people. Satan is using them to try and convert Gods children and any one else who will listen to their clever arguments. Stay accountable to those who know the truth and believe in your heart that god makes no mistakes in giving his Word to his children.

    god bless..chris

    • Hey Chris,

      Thanks for the comment. My arguments are not over translations rather, they are about the words used by Paul. The Greek matters and it is essential in many instances when discussing specific biblical interpretations.

      I also think it is awesome that you come from a life of homosexuality and God transformed you. I hear from a lot of people that homosexual people can’t change. It is impossible for them to change. I didn’t believe it for a second and I think your story is much needed in this day. Keep sharing it because people need to hear it!

      Thanks for reading,

      Travis

      • no probs , ill give you something else to think about…The Father sent Jesus, The Holy Spirit helped conceive Jesus and out came Jesus. I dont know about you but to me that is the image of a family unit. The father sends his seed, the mother conceives and out comes the child. The family unit is the image of god. Tragically my family unit was destroyed. Not just once but twice. I was abandoned at birth and given to a christian family. They taught me about Jesus Christ. Then I was taken away from them forever at 6 years old by my biological parents. A lot of really bad stuff happened and i was taken away from them at 14 years old and grew up in govt institutions. Tragically out of 2 set of family i ended up with none. One christian and one not. When i became a christian at 22 I did it to find out if Jesus in the first christian family was real. let me tell you it was a hard time believing it when i became a christian. Not only did i Have to believe in an invisible god that had forsaken me with no family to show for it but I had to believe that God could transform my life. Some time it takes God generations to turn peoples lives around. Im so glad he did it in 16 or so years and he still is changing me everyday to be more like him in every way.
        Not only has he delivered me from that life but he has also delivered me from being tortured, sexually abused, locked up and isolated from the world for 9 years before I ran away to the same Govt that put me with them at 6 years old. I ended up a homeless orphan and now from 2 sets of families I had none.
        I grew up on the streets,
        I became Homeless,
        I used people to survive,
        I became bisexual and then a homosexual
        Then I became a complete deprived sex object to men and woman
        I was a liar
        watched porn on and off for years
        had little education
        never held down a full time job
        On Govt social welfare for years
        A cheat
        I put people down with my derogative language
        I Thought I could control my harmful Lifestyle and lied to myself and others
        I was violent
        I took drugs and alcohol and got drunk heaps
        Gambled all of my money and other people’s money away and became a compulsive gambler for many years.
        Never held down any friends and traveled as a vagabond drifter, lived on the street or in Homeless institutions, backpackers.
        Traveled around Australia and visited hundreds of churches of all kinds but never stayed and built relationships with people
        I ventured into 2 messy relationships with non-Christian woman who were also a complete mess but didn’t want to know Jesus

        Used people for accommodation, money and sex
        I hated God and the Jesus that the first Christian family taught me to pray to I thought was a cold make believe lie because when I was taken away from them by force god didn’t protect me from all the evil that came my way.
        For years I lived homeless, isolated myself from building close friendships with people and just handed myself over to the world and Satan’s kingdom.
        I went to Tafe and studied Mental Health and moved to Brisbane. I put myself into Uni and found a stable home to live. I started praying to Jesus Christ every day and bought a daily devotional book which is personalized in saying how god views me and how he wants me to view him using biblical scripture.
        Slowly as I stepped out in faith and got better in the real world by staying away from evil and doing good and walking with Jesus Christ every day and investing in normal security my life started to change more than ever.
        The miracle today is I don’t do anything in the depressing list above I used to do thanks to Jesus Christ not giving up on me and just staying with me throughout all my junk.
        I’m completely healthy and hope to meet a godly woman and have a family. That’s a miracle.
        Sadly there are people out there everywhere that haven’t even lived half the life I have been dealt, up to their neck in things that separate them from Jesus and his protection.
        People who don’t know Jesus living in marriage with normal lives and jobs all the way to people into multiple partners and the list goes on. Some people just give up because they don’t think Jesus is real. Even if it’s nothing like my dramatic life I believe Jesus can set people free where ever they are at but for some people it takes real perseverance and commitment to be set free.
        My Christian faith today seeks to share how Jesus turned my life around and hopefully people can trust that if he can turn all my junk around he can theirs. Even if people may be a slave to one of the things that I was a slave to, or others unmentioned and think they are better off, which could be enough to destroy future relationships and or bring on more guilt leading away from a faithful relationship with Jesus Christ. It’s better to know someone that was a dirty sinner and has turned from their ways then people hiding destructive sin and pretending to be ok or better than others.

        Not only is God raising people like me up but we come with thunder flashing behind us….
        his peace.

      • Chris,

        That story is tragic but, God pulled you out and made you into a new creation! That is awesome! Thanks for sharing man. I am really glad that you are willing to put that in writing.

        Thanks for sharing Chris,

        Travis

  4. Sadly, the author of the original article is just one of many who is twisting the truth of scripture to justify his own sinful behavior and advance his own agenda. No scholar or theologian (especially one under such deception) is a match for the person who has encountered the Holy Spirit and the Truth of God.

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