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Jesus’ Words and Transsexualism

I came across a story yesterday that shows the depravity of our culture. According to an ABC.com story there is a ‘woman’ that claims ‘she’ is being discriminated against because ‘she’ has been disqualified from the 2012 Miss Universe Canada competition. Why was she disqualified? Because ‘she’ is not a woman. ‘She’ was born a he.

On a side note, I could write a tome on my disgust with these types of competitions but that’s for another day. What I find interesting about this is that a transsexual beauty queen that was born a man feels that he should be allowed to compete in a woman’s competition. The article linked to above quotes the transsexual woman, Jenna Talackova, listen to what he says:

I want Mr. Trump to state that this rule will be eliminated because I do not want any other woman to suffer from the discrimination that I have endured. 

Donald Trump hosts these competitions and Talackova says that Trump needs to get rid of the rule that asserts only people born as women can compete in the competition. What I find even more interesting is what the article says about the drastic changes Talackova had to make to his body:

The beauty queen has not tried to hide her past. In a 2010 YouTube video for Miss International Queen, a transgender/transsexual competition in which Talackova was a contestant, she stated that she began hormone therapy at age 14. At 19, she had sexual reassignment surgery.

I want to make one thing clear. I do not care in the least whether or not Talackova competes in the beauty competition. What I do care about is that our society has taken God’s creation and turned it upside down. This young man had to put himself on hormones to stop the impending puberty that would make him look like a man. Not only that, he decided to destroy his penis to make it resemble a woman’s vagina. This highlights the depravity of humanity perfectly. Instead of fixing the inside we try and fix the outside.

I wonder how many people stopped to ask this young man, “Why do you feel like a woman?” I wonder how many people in this young man’s life had the guts to say, “Do you think there is a deeper problem here?” Maybe this person is suffering from Gender Identity Disorder and the problem is psychological and not physical. If ‘she’ has GID then a sex-change surgery doesn’t fix it. This story certainly shows us how depraved our society is in accepting the mutilation of fully functioning organs because of a psychological disorder but it also shows us a problem throughout history…the depravity of mankind.

Let’s go back to the time of Christ. The Jewish leaders had similar issues that face us today. Notice Jesus’ words to the religious leaders of his time:

Woe to you, experts in the law and you Pharisees, hypocrites! You are like whitewashed tombs that look beautiful on the outside but inside are full of the bones of the dead and of everything unclean. In the same way, on the outside you look righteous to people, but inside you are full of hypocrisy and lawlessness. -Matthew 23: 27-28, NET

Many wouldn’t see the connection between the ABC story and Jesus’ words but the connection is deep and profound.

No matter what surgery Talackova gets ‘she’ is still a he. No matter how many fancy clothes the Pharisees wore they were still dead on the inside. No matter how many hormones Talackova takes ‘she’ is still not a functioning woman. No matter how righteous the religious leaders looked they were still unrighteous hypocrites. So what is the moral of the story?

Stop trying to fix the outside, but rather, fix the inside. God has the power to change us and I pray he changes you!

Thanks for reading.

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About Travis Berry

I am a blatantly honest person who loves to think, read, discuss, and write about God and theology. I have a bachelor's degree in Youth Ministry from Crown College. I work at a church in Houston, TX as a Youth Director and love every minute of it! I am married to a wonderful woman named Becky and we have one amazing child! I have a love for God's Word, and a fervor to live it out in the fullest, and I pray this blog reflects that. Thanks for checking out AnotherChristianBlog!.

Posted on April 4, 2012, in Christianity, Culture, Life, Theology and tagged , , , , , , , , . Bookmark the permalink. 24 Comments.

  1. Stuff like this is getting more and more out in the open and society is beginning to conform with these “changes”. Conform? I mean tolerate and accept. This just lets God’s church remember that God’s return is near. I hope our Lord Jesus continues to bless you with your blog. 😀

    • Thanks for the kind words. However, my point wasn’t to simply point out our societies acceptance of mutilating body parts but rather to understand that the quick fix is never a true fix.

      Travis

  2. I think better words of Jesus for you to understand Miss Talackova are in John 3:8- “The wind blows where it chooses, and you hear the sound of it, but you do not know where it comes from or where it goes.” I am a follower of Christ. My challenge to you is to come visit my blog, read about my life, and see me as a human being, a child of God and your sister in Christ. Try to understand. It is not for you to judge, but for God. Or, consider Matthew 20:15- ‘Don’t I have the right to do what I want with my own money? Or are you envious because I am generous?’ She is beautiful and happy. If your attitude hurt her, what good would that do?

    • Hey Clare,

      I find it interesting that you claim to follow Christ yet on your site you say to be part of the “New Age”. Anyway, allow me to comment on some of the things you said.

      You: “I think better words of Jesus for you to understand Miss Talackova are in John 3:8- ‘The wind blows where it chooses, and you hear the sound of it, but you do not know where it comes from or where it goes.'”

      Me: How does Jesus’ words describing the regenerating power of the Holy Spirit have to do with the subject of my blog post?

      You: “Try to understand. It is not for you to judge, but for God.”

      Me: Where in my blog post did I cast judgement on Talackova? I never sentenced her to hell or anything of the sort. Our culture, and unfortunately you too, seem to think that calling something wrong or simply disagreeing with someone is judging them. I think we shouldn’t be so quick to do that.

      You: “Or, consider Matthew 20:15- ‘Don’t I have the right to do what I want with my own money? Or are you envious because I am generous?’”

      Me: Again, what does this passage have to do with my post? Jesus’ is telling a parable about discipleship which has no connection to the topic you are raising.

      You: “She is beautiful and happy. If your attitude hurt her, what good would that do?”

      Me: So being “beautiful and happy” is what we should strive for in life? Of course not. Also, it is not my job to be nice to everybody. Jesus does not call his people to be nice…he calls them to love. It is not unloving for me to point out that a man who takes hormones and turns his penis inside out is still a man. It is also not unloving for me to point out that maybe there is a deeper problem here than just being ‘born in the wrong body’. Maybe it is a mental issue. Maybe it is a heart issue. Those issues need proper treatment but mutilating a perfectly good sexual organ is not the answer.

      Also, I want to point out that my post wasn’t actually about transsexualism. It was about trying to fix the outside instead of the inside. I appreciate your comment but I do think that you need to reconsider your position and life as I try to do daily.

      Travis

  3. Let us look at those bible verses.

    “If I want to be generous”- consider her beauty, and her achieving what she wishes to achieve. I see in that God’s generosity. The Holy Spirit blows where she wills- and human spirits wish for a huge range of things. I see God’s blessing in this.

    By contrast, you speak of “bones of the dead and of everything unclean”. Jesus was talking to religious hypocrites, blind guides, who imagined themselves more moral than outsiders. As Miss Talackova has not been shown to judge others, this does not mean her. Have a look at the science. She really is female. Her heart could not be made to resemble her outside, because her heart was good already.

    The measure of God’s grace is not what you, personally, find disgusting.

    As for the New Age: “Behold, I have made all things new!”- does that ring a bell?

    • Clare,

      You: “‘If I want to be generous’- consider her beauty, and her achieving what she wishes to achieve. I see in that God’s generosity.”

      Me: What? So, Jesus’ parable about giving his money to whomever he chooses is somehow related to Talackova?

      You: “The Holy Spirit blows where she wills- and human spirits wish for a huge range of things. I see God’s blessing in this.”

      Me: Is the Holy Spirit a she? Also, God changes the wills of his elect to love the things that he loves. Do you always get what you wish for?

      You: “By contrast, you speak of “bones of the dead and of everything unclean”. Jesus was talking to religious hypocrites, blind guides, who imagined themselves more moral than outsiders. As Miss Talackova has not been shown to judge others, this does not mean her.”

      Me: Did you read all of my post? I was not saying that Talackova was like the religious leaders. I was saying that they both did the same things. They both changed the outside but the inside remained the same. No matter how fancy the Pharisees dressed they are still disgusting on the inside. No matter how many operations has or hormones Talackova takes he is still not a woman. That was the connection…nothing more.

      You: “She really is female. Her heart could not be made to resemble her outside, because her heart was good already.”

      Me: Umm…no she is not “really a female”. Also, Jeremiah 17:9 would disagree with your view of mankind’s hearts:

      The human mind is more deceitful than anything else. It is incurably bad. Who can understand it?

      No heart is “good”.

      You: “The measure of God’s grace is not what you, personally, find disgusting.”

      Me: As if I ever said anything of the kind. However, God does find things disgusting. For instance, God hates sin.

      You: “As for the New Age: ‘Behold, I have made all things new!’- does that ring a bell?”

      Me: As if the New Age movement has anything to do with that passage. What if I was part of the Newer Age could I still quote this verse?

      Travis

  4. Travis, trust me that many people will have had the cowardice, lack of imagination and herd mentality to say to her “is there a deeper problem” or that she is really male. Do not imagine that her life has been easy. It takes great courage to transition as she has done. Where has her courage come from? The Holy Spirit (feminine in Greek and Hebrew, female in the Wisdom books) blows where she lists.

    You call her “depraved”. Yes, you do. If you say her acts “illustrate depravity”, you are calling her depraved. That is judging her.

    Thank you for visiting my blog. I am sorry that you did not have the imagination or empathy with this brave woman or with me to see us as your sisters. It is your loss.

    • Clare,

      You: “Travis, trust me that many people will have had the cowardice, lack of imagination and herd mentality to say to her “is there a deeper problem” or that she is really male.”

      Me: So, it is cowardice to ask this man if she could have a deeper problem? Really? Couldn’t one argue that mutilating one’s body to conform to a historically called mental disorder (Body Identity Disorder) is unimaginative? I would say yes.

      You: “Do not imagine that her life has been easy. It takes great courage to transition as she has done. Where has her courage come from? The Holy Spirit (feminine in Greek and Hebrew, female in the Wisdom books) blows where she lists.”

      Me: I never said her life was “easy”. I would say that it takes more courage to confront the real issue behind why Talackova felt like a woman than mutilating his body. You assume that ‘she’ is lead by the Holy Spirit and that is a judgement in itself. You have never heard Talackova claim to be a follower of Christ so we best not assume. Also, I am not sure if you realize how the Greek and Hebrew language works. The gender uses do not necessarily refer to gender as we understand it in English.

      You: “You call her “depraved”. Yes, you do. If you say her acts “illustrate depravity”, you are calling her depraved. That is judging her.”

      Me: Everyone is depraved unless they have been regenerated by the power of the Holy Spirit. All of humanity is depraved. Apparently, you do not believe in original sin but that is par for the course for people that are “New Age”.

      You: “Thank you for visiting my blog. I am sorry that you did not have the imagination or empathy with this brave woman or with me to see us as your sisters. It is your loss.”

      Me: You are welcome. I empathize with the struggles of others when it comes to sexuality and gender, however, I think there is a better way to address the issue. God created Talackova with a working penis. Is it his right to mutilate it into a not working organ because he feels like it? I understand that many people struggle with this stuff and I call them to turn to Christ for salvation and truth. There is a deeper issue for those feelings and thoughts…it is sin. Sin infects everyone in every way and to break the power of sin we need Christs work on the cross. I pray that you come to him with an empty hand of faith. Repent of your sin and place yourself in the righteousness of Christ for that is the only way to salvation.

      Travis

  5. Is it her right to alter her genitals, because that fits with the truth of her as a God-created human being? Yes. Yes.

    I cease to engage with your invincible ignorance.

    • Clare,

      I am not offended by you calling me ignorant. I am ignorant in many areas but I do find it interesting that you haven’t answered my questions or engaged with my arguments. As far as Talackova’s right to mutilate himself, he may have the right according to the law of land but we should not do that according to the law of God.

      I pray you come to repentance and faith in Christ because that is true freedom from our sinful selves.

      Travis

  6. How can you imagine that you do not judge, when you pray that I come to repentance and faith in Christ, because I disagree with you about transsexuality? I am a Christian, I assure you. I have refuted your arguments.

    • Clare,

      You are a self proclaimed new ager. You believe that people are “good”. Those are not Christian traits. You, like everyone, needs to repent. I am not the one passing judgement on you. I am simply pointing you towards the One that has the right to do so.

      Travis

  7. What in a man is a man’s alone to change without the will of God? Is not the mind just as holy as the body, as both are creations of God?

    So, then what medical treatments defy God and which do not? I do not not want to engage the topic of transsexuality because it is a loaded topic, especially when the argument being leveled at it has nothing to do with transsexuality in itself. Rather the argument being laid at it, is that man has no right to alter the work of God, just because man does not feel that God’s work is correct. This argument then hits hard grounds in the areas of medical procedures.

    Is it then also wrong to fix cleft palates? I would assume no, judging from Travis’s repeated use of ” but mutilating a perfectly good sexual organ,” simply because a cleft palate is not a perfectly good palate.

    I also take you to mean then that the issue is in the mind. Because it is in the mind, the problem can’t be solved by changing the body. That is an over simplification in a few ways. But lets leave it at it being a problem of the mind, that for some reason, your mind does not recognize the form that is in the mirror as the one that belongs to it. this could be gender identity, to hair color, to arms or legs, or your ears. That there is some disconnect, where the brain says that is not what’s supposed to be. So, in this case the answer according to this post is to fix the brain, not the body because that is where the problem. To change the body is tantamount to defying God.

    So at what point does the altering of the body to match mind’s self image become sacrilegious? If its the point of self mutilation period. I don’t think I can buy that.

    Mattew 18:8,9
    “If your hand or foot causes you to sin, cut if off and throw it away. It is better for you to enter into life maimed or crippled than with two hands or two feet thrown into eternal fire. And if your eye causes you to sin, tear it out and throw it away…”

    From these statements it appears that self mutilation is not an absolute evil. What’s more the bodily form that God has given man is not perfect and may be subject to man induced change if that change leads to the betterment of the person.

    So at what point does changing one’s body to match the image one has of oneself change from being sacrilegious to sanctimonious? Is it when that change in physical form only reduces the person’s tendency to sin? How much sin must it negate? Must there also be no compensation in terms of having a happier life?

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    Travis, keep up the good work! I read much more than I post, so please keep it coming. I hope you are doing well.

    • Hey Kevin,

      Sorry it took me a while to get back to you. Allow me to interact with your comments a little.

      You: “What in a man is a man’s alone to change without the will of God? Is not the mind just as holy as the body, as both are creations of God?”

      Me: I wouldn’t say “holy”. Only God can make someone holy aka. set apart. But you are correct the mental/spiritual aspect and physical aspect of humanity are both created by God. But at the same time sin has taken hold of humanity and it affects all aspects of humanity.

      You: “Is it then also wrong to fix cleft palates? I would assume no, judging from Travis’s repeated use of ” but mutilating a perfectly good sexual organ,” simply because a cleft palate is not a perfectly good palate.”

      Me: Cleft palate is in a different category than transsexuality. CP is a physical problem that can cause ear disease, feeding issues and speech trouble. Transsexuality is a problem with the brain. For a long time it was known as Gender Identity Disorder. We don’t fix people’s mental problems with physical solutions. We don’t give liposuction to an anorexic. Instead, we treat the mental issues of anorexia.

      You: “So at what point does the altering of the body to match mind’s self image become sacrilegious? If its the point of self mutilation period. I don’t think I can buy that.”

      Me: Why not?

      You: “Matthew 18:8-9, ‘If your hand or foot causes you to sin, cut if off and throw it away. It is better for you to enter into life maimed or crippled than with two hands or two feet thrown into eternal fire. And if your eye causes you to sin, tear it out and throw it away…’

      From these statements it appears that self mutilation is not an absolute evil. What’s more the bodily form that God has given man is not perfect and may be subject to man induced change if that change leads to the betterment of the person.”

      Me: I think it is clear that Jesus is using the literary device of hyperbole. Notice what he is speaking about in this passage. He is discussing temptation and sin. Here is the entire context:

      Woe to the world for temptations to sin! For it is necessary that temptations come, but woe to the one by whom the temptation comes! And if your hand or your foot causes you to sin, cut it off and throw it away. It is better for you to enter life crippled or lame than with two hands or two feet to be thrown into the eternal fire. And if your eye causes you to sin, tear it out and throw it away. It is better for you to enter life with one eye than with two eyes to be thrown into the hell of fire. -Matt. 18:7-9

      Jesus is talking about sin. Sin is a serious issue because God’s people are not to be involved with sin so Jesus is using hyperbole to show that the destruction of sin is greater than hurting your body. It does not follow that Jesus advocates physical harm and it defiantly has nothing to do with transsexuality.

      You: “So at what point does changing one’s body to match the image one has of oneself change from being sacrilegious to sanctimonious? Is it when that change in physical form only reduces the person’s tendency to sin? How much sin must it negate? Must there also be no compensation in terms of having a happier life?”

      Me: I think the first few questions you ask here stem from a misunderstanding of what Jesus actually is teaching. However, the last question you pose is interesting. How do we define “a happier life”? I would say that someone would have a much happier life if the underlying cause of their issue is dealt with. This goes right to the point of my post. Fixing the outside does not make for a happier life. A happier life only comes when one embraces the truth of the Gospel. A happier life only comes when the true underlying of pain and suffering is dealt with. Sin is the cause of our trouble and thank God that Jesus paid the full penalty of sin for his people!

      You: “Travis, keep up the good work! I read much more than I post, so please keep it coming. I hope you are doing well.”

      Me: Thanks for the kind words Kev. I am doing well! Busy, busy, busy but I can’t complain. If you have time we should get together sometime.

      Travis

  8. I didn’t read all the posts in their entirety, but one thing I notice is that we shouldn’t take the word of God out of context for personal satisfaction. Because in the end we are only lying to ourselves.

    1 Corinthians 10:23

    let us ask God for revelation and wisdom.

    God bless you all!

    -Matilde5

  9. Hi, Travis. I read your long comment replying to Kevin’s thoughtful response, and it fills me with pity for you. You have a perfectly closed mind, and the hellish thing about that which traps you completely is that you claim the words of Jesus and the truths of Christianity support your false understanding. Therefore, you may never be liberated from it. You have given me a new understanding of the “sin against the Holy Spirit”.

    You say, you do not give an anorexic liposuction. No indeed. But you might as well say, give a cancer victim a treatment for the mind as a transsexual person. Once again, do you imagine you are fearlessly stating truths and ideas no-one has tried before? People have been seeking mental “cures” for decades. It does not work.

    I wish I could see a way to get through to you and show you the truth. I am sorry, Travis, I just can’t. I hope one day you will read the words of Jesus with new eyes. I fear you are simply an old wineskin.

    • Clare,

      I think it is clear that you are not interested in what I have to say because in previous comments you wrote this:

      I cease to engage with your invincible ignorance.

      But you didn’t stop you continue to post. I am cool with people expressing their views on my site but I do not take kindly to people who say that I have a, ” perfectly closed mind,” or that I have a, “false understanding,” when you have not once engaged with what I am actually writing. But again I will respond to your comment because I think it needs to be corrected.

      You wrote: “You say, you do not give an anorexic liposuction. No indeed. But you might as well say, give a cancer victim a treatment for the mind as a transsexual person.”

      Me: What? Cancer is a physical disease. Thus, it needs to be treated physically. Transsexuality is a mental illness and needs to be treated mentally. Let me ask you a question. If a man suffers from Body Identity Disorder (BID) and his mind map tells him that he is not supposed to have a left leg. Is it okay for a doctor to chop off his left leg? Of course it isn’t! BID is strikingly similar to Gender Identity Disorder and thus should be treated how one would treat the man with BID. Now, you may not like that but please interact with my comment don’t just say that I am an “old wineskin” simply because I disagree with you.

      I pray that you come to the knowledge of Jesus Christ.

      Travis

  10. Matthew 13:15, Travis. You are incapable of being healed by God. You continue to insist on lies, though you have been comprehensively refuted. You do not have ears to hear.

    • Clare,

      Matt. 13:14-15 says:

      ‘“You will indeed hear but never understand,
      and you will indeed see but never perceive.”
      For this people’s heart has grown dull,
      and with their ears they can barely hear,
      and their eyes they have closed,
      lest they should see with their eyes
      and hear with their ears
      and understand with their heart
      and turn, and I would heal them.’

      However, I am not sure what this has to do with our conversation. Simply throwing out Bible verses that have nothing to do with the subject doesn’t mean you have interacted with my arguements. You refuse to answer simple questions or respond to my comments.

      You: “You are incapable of being healed by God”

      Me: And you called me judgemental?

      You: “You continue to insist on lies”

      Me: Show me where I lied.

      You: “you have been comprehensively refuted”

      Me: Really? Give me a logic and Biblical reason why someone could mutilate their genitals and God would be okay with it.

      You: “You do not have ears to hear”

      Me: Irrational arguments tend to do that.

      I hope you can answer a few questions and I pray that God saves you.

      Travis

  11. The trouble is, Travis, that you won’t get it. You really won’t. That is what Jesus is saying, you do not have the ears to hear and you are therefore unable to turn and hear Him. You commit the sin against the Holy Spirit: you imagine that you understand Christianity, where you have a completely false idea of it, which insulates you from the real thing. And when I tell you, you come out with stuff like “I pray that God saves you”, ie, that I come round to your bigotted, small-minded way of thinking. That ain’t gonna happen, Travis. The truth has set me free. Possibly it will you, but I doubt it.

    Onywye. Questions.

    Why is God OK with a woman having genital correction surgery, to remove her penis? Because God ” created my inmost being;
    you knit me together in my mother’s womb.
    14 I praise you because I am fearfully and wonderfully made;
    your works are wonderful,
    I know that full well.”
    Inmost being, heart as well as body, Travis. God knew what God was doing. God gives some of us this difficulty as a Blessing on all God’s people, to get them to see the whole wonder and diversity of God’s wonderful creation and stop insisting that it should be as they want rather than as God wants. You are one of the tram-line thinkers, one of the dull, cowardly, sheep-like people (rather than courageous, as you imagine) who tell this brave woman Ms Talackova that she is a man, because she had a penis. You do not look at her heart, you have no knowledge of her heart whatsoever, but you presume to call her a “Whited sepulchre”. That is basically it, Travis. You find something which you do not understand, that Ms Talackova is a woman, despite being born with a penis, and you react in revulsion and horror rather than wonder and appreciation, and acceptance. But you do not get to tell God what to think.

    The history of transsexuality over the 20th century is a history of a few brave souls insisting on transitioning, the vast majority of the rest of the population, including the psychiatrists who worked with them, resisting it just as you do now, Travis, but of those who get to know the condition increasingly accepting that Transition is the right way to proceed.

    But you just refuse to accept this. You know the quote, but you have closed your eyes, your ears, and your heart. God have mercy on you, Travis. Possibly you will come round, but it will be intensely painful for you, a John 3:3 experience- like being born again.

    The main lie which you tell is that you are saved and I am not, that you understand the Gospel and I do not, and this false understanding insulates you from the Truth of the Gospel. You are enmeshed in lies, Travis. And you imagine that it is I who am damned, that I am going to Hell unless I become as bigotted and small-minded as you. Whereas you are in Hell already. Jesus can save you, Travis. Go back to the Gospels, and read the words of Jesus.

    • Clare,

      You said: “The trouble is, Travis, that you won’t get it. You really won’t. That is what Jesus is saying, you do not have the ears to hear and you are therefore unable to turn and hear Him.”

      Me: Interesting that you can judge my heart. You don’t know who I am so how can you make such a statement? You are saying I don’t have ears to hear why? Simply because I don’t agree with your view? Strange.

      You: “You commit the sin against the Holy Spirit: you imagine that you understand Christianity, where you have a completely false idea of it, which insulates you from the real thing. And when I tell you, you come out with stuff like “I pray that God saves you”, ie, that I come round to your bigotted, small-minded way of thinking”

      Me: I sin against the Holy Spirit? the Holy Spirit dwells within me and I have been changed from my sinful ways. And of course, I do not know you and with people I do not know I say things like, “I pray God saves you.” I don’t know your heart but notice something. You are the one condemning me while I am simply pointing you to Christ. Huge difference. Want a perfect example? These were your words, “Travis. The truth has set me free. Possibly it will you, but I doubt it.” I don’t agree with you so you condemn me.

      You: “Why is God OK with a woman having genital correction surgery, to remove her penis? Because God ” created my inmost being;
      you knit me together in my mother’s womb.”

      Me: Oh nice, so God made a mistake? I don’t think he does. Everyone is born with depravity and it shouldn’t surprise that people would mutilate their bodies to fit what their mind thinks they should look like.

      You: “You are one of the tram-line thinkers, one of the dull, cowardly, sheep-like people (rather than courageous, as you imagine) who tell this brave woman Ms Talackova that she is a man, because she had a penis.”

      Me: Again more loving words from Clare. I still would suggest that it takes more courage to look at the root of the issue instead of doing something on the outside. Even though Talackova had “transition” surgery he is still a he. He will never be a functioning woman.

      You: “You find something which you do not understand, that Ms Talackova is a woman, despite being born with a penis, and you react in revulsion and horror rather than wonder and appreciation, and acceptance. But you do not get to tell God what to think.”

      Me: I react with logic and faith. And you are right I do not get to tell God what to think but neither do you. You do not get to corner the market on what God thinks simply because you think you are right. You thinking you are right doesn’t make you right. Just like the atheist who says, “god doesn’t exist,” doesn’t actually make God not exist.

      You: “The history of transsexuality over the 20th century is a history of a few brave souls insisting on transitioning, the vast majority of the rest of the population, including the psychiatrists who worked with them, resisting it just as you do now, Travis, but of those who get to know the condition increasingly accepting that Transition is the right way to proceed.”

      Me: Finding a way to be home in your own God-given body is the best way. Every psychiatrist would agree with this statement.

      You: “The main lie which you tell is that you are saved and I am not”

      Me: Hypocrite alert. Notice again your words, “You commit the sin against the Holy Spirit,” and, “The truth has set me free. Possibly it will you, but I doubt it,” and, “Jesus can save you, Travis.”

      Anyone could read our conversation and see for themselves what is really going on here. You say that I am sinning against the Holy Spirit because I do not agree with you. You say that I am not set free by the truth because I do not agree with you. You say that Jesus needs to save me because I do not agree with you. Well, I don’t agree with you. You are dead wrong on this topic and I know that you are personally wrapped up in this because you are a man that feels like a woman but that does not make you right. I will be praying for you but for now this conversation needs to be ended. You are accusing me of damning you while you are doing the same thing and that is not appreciated.

      I pray God saves you.

      Travis

  12. Hi Travis – well, I am a 73 year old woman who has lived most of my life believing in Our Father in Heaven and the Savior Jesus Christ. My path began when I was 15 years old. At 19 years through a series of unfortunate family events I gave myself over to a man who was dating outside his marriage. We eventually married, had children, but the relationship was doomed for many reasons and mostly because I felt guilty for not having the courage or faith to say goodbye when I found out he was still married, although separated. It was a mess. My belief in God was there but I went the wrong way, wanting what I should have known in the beginning would end badly. My sexual participation was poor but communication was poorer between the two of us. So, as I went from that relationship to the second one, the sexual participation was still poor on my part; Long story short and years later when the second relationship passed, in my 40’s I began to understand my sexual abilities. But, and this is where it gets interesting, people of the church and not of the church would come and go in my life with no particular giving of themselves as my kids and I struggled with the financial needs that come when a person loses everything. This disinterest on both sides of what people can be led me into a silent way of living with no contact with people and unfortunately as I began to see my sexual insight I began to look for that someone who I could finally have a sexual relationship with that would be fulfilling after all the years of not being tuned in. What I am trying to say and it is difficult here, I believe when I became aware of my sexual abilities the course I began to take led me down the path of throwing out all my values of not being with married men, separated or not, and just looking for that one someone that of course never came. After 23 years at 61 I met a man who I thought was my kindred spirit. Nothing of the sort. The relationship was based on lust; and that lust worked itself into having a dead-end relationship for the man’s hidden past once again. Now, what I am trying to get out here? The sexual side of us I have found is not all that big of a deal; but to the devil it is a big deal. Like it or not, we will not be happy with many partners and maybe not even with one if we don’t first come to that understanding of Jesus’ words to us. No matter how we twist our ideas of what we think we need to be fulfilled sexually the only fulfillment is Truth and that seems to be what we fail to see many times through so many rationalizations of our own thinking. Today, the sexual perimeters are all around us and we get caught up in the force of it and this force to my understanding now is the invisible force of evils. We don’t like to believe it but it is there all the same. There will come a time when the ones who think our bodily senses are what is true and natural will eventually discover that there is much more to us than the sexual part of us. Much, much more.

    • Hey Jean,

      Thanks for the comment. There is a lot here but I appreciate the general message behind it. I am sorry to hear that the church was not there for you when you were struggling. I think many Christians get to a point where they decide that some sins are forgivable and others are not. That is not the case. We all make poor decisions and they should have been correcting you while in those harmful relationships and they should have been there for you after you came to your senses and asked for forgiveness.

      Also, you are right when you say that there is much more to humans than the physical. One day all humanity will realize this.

      Thanks for reading,

      Travis

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