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Can Atheists be Moral?

I recently did a broadcast talking about whether or not atheists can be moral. To break the tension, yes, they can. However, they have no basis, outside of their subjectivity, to ground their morals.

With that, there was one thing that I wanted to discuss. The topic of rape came up in the broadcast and I did not answer the question clearly enough. So, I want to give a better answer here. God hates rape. He detests rape. But, atheists like to bring up Deuteronomy 22:28-29, and say that a woman who is engaged to be married is forced to marry the man that rapes her. This isn’t a fair and honest look at the Scriptures because in Exodus 22:16-17 it says this:

If a man seduces a virgin who is not betrothed and lies with her, he shall give the bride-price for her and make her his wife. 17 If her father utterly refuses to give her to him, he shall pay money equal to the bride-price for virgins.

In my broadcast, I pointed out that the father had the ability to refuse giving his daughter to the rapist. But, I did not reference this passage and that was my bad. Some may ask, why would a father ever give his daughter to the man who raped her? That’s a good question. And I don’t think any loving father would. The provision is probably for circumstances like date rape, not a rape that threatens to take the woman’s life if she doesn’t give in. The reason people make this distinction is because in Deuteronomy 22:25-27 it says this:

But if in the open country a man meets a young woman who is betrothed, and the man seizes her and lies with her, then only the man who lay with her shall die. 26 But you shall do nothing to the young woman; she has committed no offense punishable by death. For this case is like that of a man attacking and murdering his neighbor, 27 because he met her in the open country, and though the betrothed young woman cried for help there was no one to rescue her.

Here we see clearly the punishment for rape…Death. God cares about women. He created them and loves them. He wants them to be protected from all types of crimes, including rape. Often times, atheists say that the Bible says women are just property of men. If women were merely property, then why would God’s punishment for rape be death for the man?

Women are not property, they are fearfully and wonderfully made. That’s what Christians believe and that’s what we’ll continue to say.

So, without further ado…

You can click the link to watch the broadcast with comments: Can Atheists be Moral?

Or you can watch without comments below (I would encourage watching with comments):

Thanks for watching/reading,

Travis

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About Travis Berry

I am a blatantly honest person who loves to think, read, discuss, and write about God and theology. I have a bachelor's degree in Youth Ministry from Crown College. I work at a church in Houston, TX as a Youth Director and love every minute of it! I am married to a wonderful woman named Becky and we have one amazing child! I have a love for God's Word, and a fervor to live it out in the fullest, and I pray this blog reflects that. Thanks for checking out AnotherChristianBlog!.

Posted on November 24, 2015, in Christianity, Life, Theology and tagged , , , , , , , , . Bookmark the permalink. 5 Comments.

  1. Notice in the last scripture you posted, it only pertains only to betrothed women. Women who are now owned by their future husbands, and why on earth would there even be an option for a father to choose to keep or not keep on a daughter. You seem to want to point to a difference in severity between date rape and “regular” rape. This would be a separate argument, but still, in any case, either type of rape is abhorrent. These scriptures seem to prove the opposite side’s argument and not your own.

    • I was going to reply to every point, but it seems to me that you won’t judge my response fairly. So, allow me to ask a question of you. By what standard would you consider rape wrong? Do you have an objective standard to call it wrong or is it merely your subjective opinion that rape is wrong? If its subjective, you shouldn’t have a problem with your misinterpretation of the text.

      • Your making assumptions of whether or not I would judge you fairly. (I, actually, would.) Rape is wrong because it hurts people. I’m a people. Other people are people.

      • So, it’s subjective. You don’t like it because it hurts others and you don’t want to be hurt. However, there are people that like hurting other people. They think it’s fun to hurt other people. What standard can you hold them to, other than your dislike for the action?

      • I never said it was completely subjective. I simply stated why rape was wrong. It’s not that I simply am of the opinion that rape is wrong. I wouldn’t say that there is some glowing orb of morality somewhere where we can touch it to download human morality. Still, I would not be of the opinion that morals are subjective to the point of it being a matter of personal tastes, which is what you seem to think I think. Now, I could go into a bunch of moral philosophy, but I don’t care to at the moment. Although, there is a great deal of it.

        Suffice it to say, if there was one lone living creature in the universe, I wouldn’t think morality would matter nearly as much. If there were no living creatures, it wouldn’t matter at all. However, this not our reality, and so, morality matters a great deal.

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